Quoting vectar:

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Are we just supposed to stop using the Disc Id period?

That's pretty much impossible to ask. Users *will* continue to contribute Disc ID's and Disc ID-based profiles into the database on a daily basis, including many users who won't have even seen this thread, and are blissfully unaware of the problem. This really is something that Invelos should address...

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Quoting GreyHulk:

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Are Microsoft aware that this is a problem?

I don't really think that this is even on their radar. Does anyone know for what - outside of DVDP - of course, the DVD DiscId is used?

Has anyone checked if a CD DiscId has changed also? Because that would impact the CDDB - that is if people are still buying audio CDs.

IIRC way back when 'long' discID format was first implemented in Profiler, it required a particular minimum version of DirectX be installed to work. I think its original function then was for use similar to that of CDDB, i.e. as a key for local library management within media player.
If this was intended just as a local db data key though, then probably MS won't care less about it changing now in 1809 unless it adversely affects some other public db they're responsible for.

Assuming there is any development ever again for DVDP, probably the ideal path would be to just generate the key entirely within Profiler, just as is done for BDs.... though would obviously need to be coded as to match legacy IDs.

I just go forward with the new ID, where else could I go?

I just contributed Disc profiles to complete box sets which didn't have disc profiles. So no one bothered the contribute old disc IDs before, so mine are as good as any.

Quoting GreyHulk:

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Are Microsoft aware that this is a problem?

Is this a Microsoft problem? Or is it the problem how the DVD profiler generates the disc IDs? Does anyone know how the disc IDs are generated?

CyberLink's (PowerDVD) database still works correct.

Quoting DJ Doena:

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Has anyone checked if a CD DiscId has changed also? Because that would impact the CDDB - that is if people are still buying audio CDs.

Still works fine. But there are two CDDB databases - CDDB1 (= the original CDDB / old format) and CDDB2 (new format). The two are incompatible with each other.

Quoting marcelb7:

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At the moment, none of the existing discs can be found by scanning the disc, if you have Win10/1809/1903 installed.

Ok, that is annoying. But again, is it a big problem? The reason I'm asking is that some posts here make it sound like this is making Profiler more or less unusable. Btw, shouldn't that be "non of the existing DVDs"? Unless I have misunderstood, the blu-rays will still be ok.

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And even if I submitted the new disc id, would the old one still be there for real?

Yes. Why else would Invelos have encouraged us to submit alternative disc id:s?

But SlySoft AnyDVD proves that the DVDs are being scanned incorrectly. We DEFINITELY shouldn't be contributing these 'new' ones.

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Ok, that is annoying. But again, is it a big problem?

Since Rutan mentioned alternate disc IDs this does pose an issue with that as it could lead to duplicate information for the same disc and further fragments the database.

Quoting iPatsa:

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Apparently people who are fully aware of this (even linking to this thread in their contribution notes) are beginning to contribute the new (or wrong?) disc IDs. I feel inclined to vote no to this but I'm not sure if I should even care...

Yes, I've seen it too and have just been voting Neutral. I don't think they should be knowingly contributed, at least at this point... and certainly not for thousands upon thousands of profiles in the database.

I think it's already been proven that these are really not accurate Disc ID's? Since AnyDVD will still give the correct old Disc ID's.

If Ken or someone would come out and make some kind of ruling on this, it would help things immeasurably.