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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,686 |
| | Posted: | | | | I see this type of text entered as Rating Details in many British releases:  But isn't that just the definition of PG in Britain? Rating Details are supposed to be specific details for the title in question, not just a generic definition, right? So, should this type of text be accepted as Rating Details? | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,279 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yes it is a generic wording and not the full advice, so you could argue it doesn't serve any real purpose, but for a long time it was the only wording they provided. They didn't feel the need to give a detailed breakdown of ratings. So for all intents and purposes it is the rating advice regardless of how generic it is.
I would be comfortable leaving it as is, unless the detailed breakdown is given on the BBFC website (not all films are listed and not all films have detailed breakdowns), in which case I would vote no or replace it. | | | | IVS Registered: January 2, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,641 |
| | Posted: | | | | But shouldn't people already know what the generic advice is then for the rating? |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,852 |
| | Posted: | | | | Entering it seems harmless, whether it's useful or not, and it doesn't seem to be explicitly disallowed. Removing it from one's local database and locking the field is trivial.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,279 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting rdodolak: Quote:
But shouldn't people already know what the generic advice is then for the rating? What does that matter? Ultimately the rules say we should enter the details that are on the cover in the absence of other sources, so if this is what's there it is within the rules to include it. Removing it or voting no on it is not. | | | | IVS Registered: January 2, 2002 |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote:
The rules say "enter rating details". These are not rating details. They are rating definitions. So, as I see it, they are not allowed by the rules. The PG rating definition does not provide information on exactly why a film received a PG rating, rather, it is the content advice (that is, the rating details) provided by the BBFC: https://www.bbfc.co.uk/rating/PG Under section titled " How can I find out more about a specific film?", BBFC states: "Please check the content advice for the film or video you are thinking of watching. Content advice is available on this website, on our free App, as well as on film posters, DVD and Blu-ray packaging, and on some listings." The BBFC Classification Guidelines state content advice includes: • short description of the issues contained in the film or the episodic content. • an extended version, designed for people who want a more detailed idea of the issues. Personally, I would double-check the BBFC web site for the title concerned and confirm whether there was no content advice provided. | | | | Last edited: by ObiKen |
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| Registered: November 24, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,289 |
| | Posted: | | | | As far as I know, the details are the reasons for the certificate. "Mild Violence" or "Mild Peril" are details, not "this is what PG means". |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,641 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lithurge: Quote:
Quoting rdodolak:
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But shouldn't people already know what the generic advice is then for the rating?
What does that matter? Ultimately the rules say we should enter the details that are on the cover in the absence of other sources, so if this is what's there it is within the rules to include it. Removing it or voting no on it is not. It matters because we don't, and have never, include(d) the rating definition in the rating details. The rating details are the descriptors for why a specific film received the rating it did and is unique to that film. The definition is just a boiler plate/generic explanation for the rating which is independent to the film. For the US' PG-13 rating we don't add "Some Material May Be Inappropriate for Children Under 13" to the rating details field. I don't see why this would be any different for other countries. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,279 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting rdodolak: Quote:
Quoting Lithurge:
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Quoting rdodolak:
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But shouldn't people already know what the generic advice is then for the rating?
What does that matter? Ultimately the rules say we should enter the details that are on the cover in the absence of other sources, so if this is what's there it is within the rules to include it. Removing it or voting no on it is not.
It matters because we don't, and have never, include(d) the rating definition in the rating details. The rating details are the descriptors for why a specific film received the rating it did and is unique to that film. The definition is just a boiler plate/generic explanation for the rating which is independent to the film.
For the US' PG-13 rating we don't add "Some Material May Be Inappropriate for Children Under 13" to the rating details field.
I don't see why this would be any different for other countries. I come back to the point that I said I was comfortable with overwriting the generic wording with the actual wording from the BBFC site where it's available. But I still don't see a particular problem where it is the only 'detail' available. Do you filter on ratings detail? What I certainly don't agree with is overwriting it in cases where the detail is correctly provided on the sleeve of the case and in the profile from that sleeve. The BBFC have a history of changing the advice, so what's currently on the website does not necessarily reflect the advice that was given at the time a title was released. For example: 5-039036-012348 - 28 Days Later. What's in the current profile is correct as the advice in the boxes on the back cover reflect the way they broke it down at the time, so it should not be replaced with what is currently on the BBFC website if it differs. | | | | IVS Registered: January 2, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,686 |
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| Registered: March 23, 2007 | | Posts: 97 |
| | Posted: | | | | The generic wording should be removed, I will always remove them if I see them. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,738 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote:
The rules say "enter rating details". These are not rating details. They are rating definitions. So, as I see it, they are not allowed by the rules. Agreed. |
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